New Pintech cymbals!

davidshek · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: New Pintech cymbals!

Yay! Today my box arrived from Hope Drums, with a 10" clear single-zone PC and a 12" Translucent Blue single-zone VisuLite! Very Happy

I mounted the 10" PC up as my blue open hi-hat, just above and to the right of my yellow hi-hat (the black 10" TC). And I replaced my blue Ion cymbal with the 12" VisuLite. They both came with Aquarian cymbal springs, so I used those too. Eventually, I'll put that 2nd Ion back up as a left Green, I just don't have the mounting hardware for it yet.

Played a couple songs, and they're both just as awesomely responsive as the TC. The VisuLite is a bit louder when hit on the edge, actually quite a bit, but when hit on the Bow, it's pretty quiet and actually has nice realistic cymbal rebound as well. The PC is about the same in volume as the TC, and has better rebound too.

Here's a short video of the new layout (HQ link):

Jump to Youtube

I'll have a play video (gold star of Just a Girl) up in the next few days.
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Jumpman · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject:

Nice

But, you didn't hit them or anything! Hehe.

mikehrz · Living Legend Joined: 10 Jan 2009 Posts: 554

What's your opinion on using them with the cymbal springs? Any noticeable difference? I'd be especially interested to hear if the spring matters with the Visulite, as I have PC14s which are probably closer in weight to those than the PC10.

tut seals · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:44 am Post subject:

Interested in selling your old TC 10?

EDIT - looks like its still on the kit....nevermind. And i even watched the video before i posted!! I'm a dumbass.

gunnerx · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:01 am Post subject:

I actually bought the red Aquarian spring just to test it out and I have it installed on my right crash which is a TC14 and I like it. I think I will be getting 2 more to put on the Ride and the left crash.

David, so do you recommend the PC over the TC? Is the rebound a lot better than the TC?
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Doc_SoCal · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject:

I dig the clear look.
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davidshek · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject:

Couple of things.

@Jumpman: I hit it plenty in my Just a Girl vid. Patience, grasshoppa Wink

@gunnerx: The PC's rebound is better to a point that I can actually do double-stroke rolls on it with very little wrist action. The TC is so dead that it's ALL wrist.

@mikehrz: The VisuLites and PCs actually come with a notice saying that if you do not use the cymbal spring, you've effectively voided your warranty. Text is as follows:

"Pintech provides cymbal springs for two reasons:
1. To prevent excessive stress on the bell area of the cymbal, therefore preventing breakage.
2. To provide for a more realistic movement and feel of the cymbal.

Therefore, if the cymbal breaks in the bell area because the cymbal spring is not being used, Pintech will not provide a replacement at no charge during the 1st year, as the warranty would under proper usage normally allow for."

It makes a big difference with the VisuLite, makes it feel like a real ride cymbal. I'm really happy with these things, to a point where I've already told Brian that I'll probably order 2 more green VisuLites next week to mount up as my 2 crash cymbals. Smile

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mikehrz · Living Legend Joined: 10 Jan 2009 Posts: 554

Are those the red, medium springs? Might have to consider picking some up, once my bank account recovers from my latest set of acquisitions...

Bonet · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject:

Pintech has always send me the red. And they work great

MikeMcQ1 · Core Band Member Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 52

David,

I swore you had a another e-kit other than the Ion. Do you have another one as well? I ask because I would think you would want to map an OpenHH to an actual pedaled HH (i.e. same cymbal as your closed HH). Just curious really, because I also have some technique questions about the HH pedal.

I'm going to take your advice in a diff thread and will be getting a pintech to add to my SD7K as a second crash, I'm kinda' torn with the clear look, as I think I like a more uniform look, but I'm not sure Smile

davidshek · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject:

MikeMcQ1 · Core Band Member Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 52

Yeah, probably... I've gone through so many posts about drums lately that they are all just blurring together at this point. Chalk it up to my old age again Sad

But, can I assume that these will work with the Simmons line of drums? I'm going to add a 2nd crash, and split my current crash with it which is a stock Simmons cymbal.

And to be even more wild and crazy Wink

I'm going to use the snare input (my only dual zone input) so that I can have two crash cymbal voices, but give up my snare rim sound. Does that sound reasonable?

davidshek · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject:

Pintech cymbals should work with any line of e-drums, including Simmons yes.
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theflash0000 · Gear Modder Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 38

Cool. Def like the *green* Visulites for the crashes Smile

I'm reading your comments with interest because I am a little lost in the cymbal department right now.

I'm currently using 3 CY-8s (2 crashes and one as the HH mounted on a HH stand), one CY14 for the ride, and custom trigger made from a 10-in Pintech practice cymbal for my blue/open HH (similar to your HH setup).

I also have an old Pintech 14" TC in reserve.

The CY14 on the ride is nice, but I honestly do not like the CY-8s at all. They are way too loud (especially at the HH position) and their response seems inconsistent. I am also not much of a fan of the Roland pieces that attach to the cymbal mount to allow swingining without rotating the cymbal. They do their job, but I've found the swinging cymbals are prone to double-triggering, even with careful tweaking on the brain.

Anyway, not sure where I'm going with this. I've found the TC to be a bit more reliable in the triggering department, probably because its a very simple design, but having a huge 14" manhole cover as a HH feels awkward. None of the Pintech models come in 12" or 13", otherwise I'd probably go with that for the HH and crashes.

Any suggestions on where else to look?
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gunnerx · Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:02 am Post subject:

David, any issues with double triggering on with the Visulite mounted on the spring? I'm getting multiple triggering with mine. I guess I need to tweak the settings on the TD9.
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