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Bonet Hardcore Band Member
Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 236 Location: Sunrise, FL
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: Spoke to the MIDI SOLUTIONS people DM5/TD-3 Fix |
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After I explained the situation he said that that yes the Event Processesor will work fine for this application. It has 10 programmable events and if thats not enough they have the "plus" version that has 30 events. You can down load the software for free and have a look.
http://www.midisolutions.com/prodevp.htm
He also said that if you buy it through one of the dealers that you could get it for a discounted price from MSRP.
So the thinking for the application of this box is as follows:
(first person to actually try please post back here)
TD-3, TD-6, TD-8 & TD-10 - RB
This will fix the bundled HH stuff.
Set your HH to some out of the way midi number like 60, so that the other HH elements fall at 58 and 56 automatically. Now program the box to switch 58 to 46 (yellow) and 60 to 48 (blue). The pedal is 58 and you don't have to set it to anything. (I did this from memory so chk it first please.)
So now you've used 2 of the 10 preset operations that you program to the Event Processor.
So you should have 8 operations that you could use for GH mapping. The programming is done once and you are done, you don't have to reprogram each time. Just keep your mapping in RB and GH from clashing by using different midi notes.
DM5 and the Yamaha that Sir Putts has - RB
This will fix having the same drum sounds for your pads and cymbals.
Set your cymbals to some out of the way midi notes, say 61 HHO, 62 HHC, 63 ride, 64 crash, etc. Program your Event Processor to change 61 to 48 (blue), 62 to 46 (yellow), 63 to 48 (blue), and 64 to (whatever green is, sorry forgot).
This will let you assign any sound to those new midi numbers, and the problem is fixed.
You have used 4 (or more depending on how many cymbals you have) of the 10 operations, and should still have 6 for any GH mapping.
The programming is done once and you are done, you don't have to reprogram each time. Just keep your mapping in RB and GH from clashing by using different midi notes.
You can also use it to do more mapping for the songs when the HH becomes RED, etc.
Note:
None of this will let your cymbals sound like cymbals in RB. They will sound like cymbals in your drum brain.
Any questions? |
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gunnerx Hardcore Band Member

Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 388 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for finding out. That's actually not a bad solution at all. I will have to check how much they're selling it here for as 2 of the dealers are near my house. _________________ My Flickr Photos |
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Doc_SoCal N.O.M.F.I.C.

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 3198 Location: One Step Ahead Of You....
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Good Info, thanks man. _________________ All I am offering is the truth, nothing more... |
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deadlybulb Core Band Member

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Posts: 84
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Yessssss!!!! I will finally be able to teach myself the HH pedal. Of course, I'll have to go back to bass kicks with my right leg... It feels strong enough now after my surgery. I'll give it a few more weeks. |
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deadlybulb Core Band Member

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Posts: 84
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I got the Event Procesor and it works as advertised. Thanks for doing the legwork on this, Bonet.
Here's a video on how to set it up:
Be sure to watch it in high quality or else you won't be able to follow the software tutorial.
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Bonet Hardcore Band Member
Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 236 Location: Sunrise, FL
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice!!!
I was surfing at work and was nearly discovered when I started to laugh uncontrollably. Can't say enough good things about that thumbs up.
And for those of you watching.
That same box can deliver the correct sounds with a DM5 or any of the Yamaha dtxpress brains.
And it will also fix the HH stuf on any of the Roland TD's where the HH stuff is bundled. |
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Doc_SoCal N.O.M.F.I.C.

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 3198 Location: One Step Ahead Of You....
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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I had a feeling that was the 100.00 solution.
Very nice. _________________ All I am offering is the truth, nothing more... |
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karmajack Gear Modder

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Posts: 481 Location: Northeast Ohio
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Good stuff. I'll put this on my shopping list soon. |
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namike Hardcore Band Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 125 Location: Pensacola, FL
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Not a bad deal at all. Not quite a $100 fix, but fairly close...looks like about $130 for the event processor and $30-$40 for a USB to MIDI interface cable to program the thing. Maybe someone in the community wouldn't mind lending out their cable and/or having the boxes sent to them for programming  _________________ Michael J. Gallagher
Pensacola, FL
XB360, GHWT MIDI Pass-through, Yamaha DTXPress brain, Yamaha DTXPressIII kit |
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deadlybulb Core Band Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's about the right price range. I paid $117.00 plus about $10.00 shipping from Full Compass:
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/351140.html
I'm not sure why they haven't processed the video for HD yet...
I rendered it at 1280X720 at maximum bitrate. You really have to squint to see the software settings at normal Youtube quality. I have the video edits saved so I'll try to re-render it and re-up it on Youtube. |
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Wesker316 Band Member

Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| namike wrote: | | ...and $30-$40 for a USB to MIDI interface cable to program the thing. |
Would the free usb to midi cable from RedOctane (to adjust the sensitivity of the GHWT drumkit) work to program the event processor ? |
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deadlybulb Core Band Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Wesker316 wrote: | | namike wrote: | | ...and $30-$40 for a USB to MIDI interface cable to program the thing. |
Would the free usb to midi cable from RedOctane (to adjust the sensitivity of the GHWT drumkit) work to program the event processor ? |
I didn't even know they offered this. Looking at this screen, I'd say there's a really good chance that this will work b/c the pulldown menu says, "USB audio device" in a windows interface. My MIDI Sport adapter also shows up as a "USB audio device."
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/01/ghwt-drum-tuning-app-now-available-red-octane-shipping-midi-usb/ |
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Doc_SoCal N.O.M.F.I.C.

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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I sent MIDI SOLUTIONS an email Friday AM asking about a group buy but have not heard back yet. _________________ All I am offering is the truth, nothing more... |
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Solfrio Hardcore Band Member

Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 132 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, I'm kinda new at this. I have a question regarding the MIDI Solutions device. In addition to fixing the HHO/HHC problem, will this also allow the correct sound to come through on fills? For example, if I play the hi-hat it will be a hi-hat sound on fills and if I play the yellow tom will it make the yellow tom sound on fills? _________________ Drums - Expert
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mikehrz Living Legend

Joined: 10 Jan 2009 Posts: 554
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Spoke to the MIDI SOLUTIONS people DM5/TD-3 Fix |
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| Bonet wrote: | Note:
None of this will let your cymbals sound like cymbals in RB. They will sound like cymbals in your drum brain. |
When using the GHWT midi interface, no, nothing will make the cymbal sounds work in RB during fills. _________________ Alesis Trigger I/O + The SethBox |
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