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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Step By Step - GHWT Drums To Rack Mount Midi Box For E-Drums Reply with quote

Too easy for words. Small & Tidy, Neat as can be.

No extra parts other than a clamp mount that will run you a few bucks. I suppose you could use all sorts of mounts, I had this laying around.

Total Conversion Time - 30 Minutes to an Hour depending on you. Smile

Plug in your Roland Brains MIDI Output into the Box (or any other MIDI drum set that can be told to use the proper MIDI Notes) dial it in with the MIDI notes below and drum your brains out.

RockBand Settings

RED - MIDI Note 38
YELLOW - MIDI Note 46
BLUE - MIDI Note 48
GREEN - MIDI Note 45
KICK - MIDI Note 36

GHWT Settings are the same, you just add the orange pad at MIDI Note 49.

Works great for both games of course. But this is really the only good thing I can find about GHWT drumming. Thanks Octane! Someone had to have planned this. Its too easy.

Muwahahahahahahahahahha

Anywho.... take a look. Ask for help if you need it. PM if you want, I dont mind.

http://www.rockband.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2667&d=1228097446

http://www.rockband.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2668&d=1228097448

http://www.rockband.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2669&d=1228097454

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did something similar. I used a surface mount MIDI jack (pulled from my MSA-P enclosure) and just mounted it to the side of the controller box.



Then I used conduit straps and scrap plywood to mount a small platform the my e-kit and medium strength velcro to hold the controller on. This allows me to easily pull the controller off to hold it like normal controller when going through leaderboard and other menus. The platform you see under the controller box here was supposed to be temporary till I had time to make a proper one (smaller, shaped more like the controller box and painted black). When I think about doing it, I decide to play instead.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outstanding.

Glad to have you posting broham.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great setup! I like the idea of the midi plug. Was the xbox controller that much different in the amount of extra boards?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flyer wrote:
Great setup! I like the idea of the midi plug. Was the xbox controller that much different in the amount of extra boards?


The the Headphone/Bind PCB. Everything else is the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone noticed they dumped this thread on the Rockband Forums into GENERAL?

That logic stream is escaping the processing ability of every synapse in my brain.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc_SoCal wrote:
That logic stream is escaping the processing ability of every synapse in my brain.


I guess a mod over there is having an issue with his or her neurotransmitters diffusing across the synaptic cleft resulting in an illogical decision.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirPuttsAlot wrote:
Doc_SoCal wrote:
That logic stream is escaping the processing ability of every synapse in my brain.


I guess a mod over there is having an issue with his or her neurotransmitters diffusing across the synaptic cleft resulting in an illogical decision.


Cool then its not just me. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, it's deadlybulb again,

Got your message from the RB board. I'll re post my question here.

I'm doubtful about this as you have already stated that it will not work for freestyle mode, but here is my issue:

I have the HH and T1 mapped to yellow (note 46) but both of them play the HH sound during fills. great for the HH, but I want the tom to play the tom sound like it does when I used my RB kit.

Is there a way to map it so that you can distinguish the cymbal/HH sounds form the tom sounds?

BTW, I have v-drums with TD-3. Snare, kick, HH, 3 toms, and 2 cybmals.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting...

So, the GHWT controller is mapping Midi Note 46 to the Yellow Cymbal instead of the Tom. Unfortunately the GHWT controller does not send MIDI to the XBox, but instead maps to the Xbox controller. So say Note 46 comes into the GHWT Controller and then it send Right Bumper Button to the XBox (I made that mapping up, I really have no idea what it is). I believe that the MIDI -> XBox mapping is static inside the GHWT controller so there would be no way to adjust note 46 to say Left Bumper Button.

Sorry.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is what I figured. The strange thing to me is why does it play the HH noise for yellow? When I used my RB1 kit, the yellow was always a tom (the coolest sounding one IMO.)

I guess it's thinking it's one of the cymbal ports for the RB2 set?

No matter, this has but a negligible affect on the overall coolness factor of being able to play an e-kit with RB.

BTW, I am a PS3 user.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadlybulb wrote:
BTW, I am a PS3 user.


OK, I identified the problem, lol...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha!

d@mn, foiled again. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadlybulb wrote:
Hey, it's deadlybulb again,

Got your message from the RB board. I'll re post my question here.

I'm doubtful about this as you have already stated that it will not work for freestyle mode, but here is my issue:

I have the HH and T1 mapped to yellow (note 46) but both of them play the HH sound during fills. great for the HH, but I want the tom to play the tom sound like it does when I used my RB kit.

Is there a way to map it so that you can distinguish the cymbal/HH sounds form the tom sounds?

BTW, I have v-drums with TD-3. Snare, kick, HH, 3 toms, and 2 cybmals.

Thanks!


Ah, OK I think I understand the question now.

The answer to your question is, yes you can do that and I highly reccomend it.

This would be my suggested method: http://www.roland.com/products/en/PM-10/index.html

You have a rad drum brain, bail on the game drum sounds.

Fills are WAAAAAAAY more fun.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was actually going to be my next purchase. Now I have my TD-3 outputting to my receiver, but it's on aux, and the PS3 is on another input.

I thought about headphones for my own drum sounds while playing RB, but they're noise canceling, so I'd have to crank the game volume way up, and I live in an apartment, so I try to respect my neighbors.

I usually play the game with headphones.

Another thing is, I have no real drumming experience except for the game. I play almost solely on expert, but there are many songs, I believe, that I would struggle with if I was hearing two different drum kits (mine, and say, Neal Peart's, for instance.)

This would be a great solution for the easier songs and when (not if Smile ) I improve on the more difficult songs.

But I do want to be able to freestyle and practice rudiments with an amp, anyways!

Hmmm... now that I re read your post, is there a way to turn off the drum track for the whole song in the audio options???

I'm going to investigate....
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